▲Prof. Kim Hong-bin, Division of Infectious Diseases at SNU Bundang Hospital is explaining the lung state of a COVID-19 patient.
Lee Hee Hoon
- The COVID-19 situation has progressed rapidly over the past two months. Did you have anything you didn't expect?
"We didn't expect Shincheonji collective infections at all. No one expected so many patients to pour out overnight. Of course, community infections were expected. Therefore, we devised a strategy by securing beds or clarifying the medical delivery system. The current medical system, however, could not handle such a sharp increase in the number of patients. At least if things had happened within our reach, some of the deaths wouldn't have met their ends like that. I really feel sorry about them."
- As you know, controversy flared up about the 25th patient, because he was discharged from SNU Bundang Hospital in on Feb. 29th, but diagnosed with 'reconfirmed' again later.
"The test results were neither a recurrence(reactivation) nor reinfection. The RT-PCR test(Real-time Reverse Transcription Polymerase Chain Reaction test) was conducted four to five times and the results were all negative. At first, we thought that his immune system had decreased and the virus that was left in his body had returned. So we retested him several times. However, the PCR test shows that the virus levels kept going back and forth between positive and negative. This case is called the "undetermined." In this case, we usually judge that there are no living viruses. German researchers also submitted a paper on this, and their conclusion is the same. In this case, we conclude that there is usually no virus."
- Does it mean that the positive results from the PCR test don't necessarily mean there's a virus?
"You can say that. People often misunderstand this. The PCR is not a way to detect live viruses, but a way to detect genes. In some cases, the genes of the dead virus remain in the respiratory tract just as human genes can be detected in a dead body. In this case, even if there is no live virus, if a tiny fragment of the virus genes is left, it amplifies and shows the positive result in the PCR test."
- An employee at SNU Bundang Hospital was diagnosed with COVID-19.
"That person has been discharged. I don't know whether the employee will return to work or not yet. Immediately after that person was confirmed to have been infected, the other employees classified as "close contacts" self-quarantined for two weeks. Those who came into contact with the employee were also examined for COVID-19. Some parts of the hospital had to be closed. As a result, some of the treatments were paralyzed. The biggest problem here is the mental burden that the confirmed person will feel. The critical gaze at the confirmed patient must be very harsh to bear, regardless of how he or she became infected."
- What do you mean by 'critical gaze'?
"It's a social stigma caused by opening his or her personal movements. He or she was infected unavoidably but many people believe that the infected person harms so many others. Even some local governments continued to send such individual movements through disaster text messages. When an individual's daily life is made public in this way, the psychological damage that the infected person will receive can also be considerable."
- The revealing of the movements was carried out for the first time for COVID-19. What's your position on this?
"Of course, it is necessary to open the confirmed patients' movements, but doing it excessively is a problem. Because the personal information was revealed, some innocent people were harmed. In fact, some patients who were about to leave the hospital could not return to their homes even though their condition had already improved. It's because their houses have already been opened."
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